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		<title>Relax, we&#8217;re not living in a computer simulation</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since Elon Musk's recent admission that he's a simulationist, several people have asked me what I think of the proposition that we are living inside a simulation.My view is very firmly that the Universe we are right now experiencing is real. Here are m...]]></description>
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<p>Ever since <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/elon-musk-ai-artificial-intelligence-computer-simulation-gaming-virtual-reality-a7060941.html" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">Elon Musk&#8217;s recent admission</a> that he&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/4a48a48238f01" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">simulationist</a>, several people have asked me what I think of the proposition that we are living inside a simulation. My view is very firmly that the Universe we are right now experiencing is real. Here are my reasons.<span id="more-64254"></span></p>
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<p>Firstly, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">Occam&#8217;s razor</a>; the principle of explanatory parsimony. The problem with the simulation argument is that it is a fantastically complicated explanation for the universe we experience. It&#8217;s about as implausible as the idea that some omnipotent being created the universe. No. The simplest and most elegant explanation is that the universe we see and touch, both first hand and through our telescopes, LIGOs and Large Hadron Colliders, is the real universe and not an artifact of some massive computer simulation.</p>
<p>Second, is the problem of the Reality Gap. Anyone who uses simulation as a tool to develop robots is well aware that robots which appear to work perfectly well in a simulated virtual world often don&#8217;t work very well at all when the same design is tested in the real robot. This problem is especially acute when we are <a href="http://alanwinfield.blogspot.co.uk/2011/01/new-experiments-in-embodied.html" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">artificially evolving</a> those robots. The reason for these problems is that the model of the real world and the robot(s) in it inside our simulation is an approximation. The <a href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/articleDetails.jsp?arnumber=6151107" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">Reality Gap</a> refers to the less-than-perfect fidelity of the simulation; a better (higher fidelity) simulator would reduce the reality gap.</p>
<p>Anyone who has actually coded a simulator is painfully aware of the cost, not just computational but coding costs, of improving the fidelity of the simulation &#8211; even a little bit is very high indeed. My long experience of both coding and using computer simulations teaches me that there is a law of diminishing returns, i.e. that the cost of each additional 1% of simulator fidelity costs far more than 1%. I rather suspect that the computational and coding cost of a simulator with 100% fidelity is infinite. Rather as in HiFi audio, the amount of money you would need to spend to <i>perfectly</i> reproduce the sound of a Stradivarius ends up higher than the cost of hiring a real Strad and a world-class violinist to play it for you.</p>
<p>At this point the simulationists might argue that the simulation we are living in doesn&#8217;t need to be perfect, just good enough. Good enough to do what, exactly? To fool us that we&#8217;re living in a simulation, or good enough to run on a finite computer (i.e. one that has finite computational power and runs at a finite speed). The problem with this argument is that every time we look deeper into the universe we see more: more galaxies, more sub-atomic particles, etc. In short, we see more detail. The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_program" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">Voyager 1</a> spacecraft has left the Solar System without crashing, like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Truman_Show" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">Truman</a>, into the edge of the simulation. There are no glitches like <a href="http://www.openculture.com/2014/02/philip-k-dick-theorizes-the-matrix-in-1977-declares-that-we-live-in-a-computer-programmed-reality.html" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">deja vu in The Matrix</a>.</p>
<p>My third argument is about the computational effort, and therefore energy cost of simulation. I conjecture that to non-trivially simulate a complex system <i><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;">x</span> </i>(i.e. human), requires more energy than the real <i><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;">x</span> </i>consumes. An equation to express this inequality looks like this; how much greater depends on how high the fidelity of the simulation.</p>
<a href="https://www.codecogs.com/eqnedit.php?latex=e(sim(x))&amp;space;%3E&amp;space;e(x)" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer"><img decoding="async" title="e(sim(x)) &gt; e(x)" src="https://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?e(sim(x))&amp;space;&gt;&amp;space;e(x)" alt="" /></a>
<p>Let me explain. The average human burns around 2000 Calories a day, or about 9000 KJoules of energy. How much energy would a computer simulation of a human require, capable of doing all the same stuff (even in a virtual world) that you can in your day? Well, that&#8217;s impossible to estimate because we can&#8217;t simulate complete human brains (let alone the rest of a human). But here&#8217;s one illustration. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo_versus_Lee_Sedol" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">Lee Sedol played AlphaGo</a> a few months ago. In a single 2 hour match, he burned about 170 Calories &#8211; the amount of energy you&#8217;d get from an egg sandwich. In the same 2 hours the AlphaGo machine consumed <a href="http://jacquesmattheij.com/another-way-of-looking-at-lee-sedol-vs-alphago" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">around 50,000 times more energy</a>.</p>
<p>What can we simulate? The most complex organism that we have been able to simulate so far is the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenWorm" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">Nematode worm <i>c-elegans</i></a>. I previously estimated that the energy cost of simulating the nervous system of a c-elegans is (optimistically) about 9 J/hour, which is about 2000 times greater than the real nematode (0.004 J/hr).</p>
<p>I think there are lots of good reasons that simulating complex systems on a computer costs more energy than the same system consumes in the real world, so I&#8217;ll ask you to take my word for it (I&#8217;ll write about it another time). And what&#8217;s more the relationship between energy cost and mass is logarithmic, following <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleiber%27s_law" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">Kleiber&#8217;s Law</a>, and I strongly suspect the same law applies to scaling up computational effort <a href="http://alanwinfield.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/estimating-energy-cost-of-evolution.html" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">as I wrote here</a>. Thus, if the complexity of an organism <i>o</i> is <i>C</i>, then following Kleiber&#8217;s Law the energy cost of simulating that organism, <i>e</i> will be</p>
<a href="https://www.codecogs.com/eqnedit.php?latex=e_o&amp;space;%5Csim&amp;space;C_o%5E%7BX(F)%7D" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer"><img decoding="async" title="e_o sim C_o^{X(F)}" src="https://latex.codecogs.com/gif.latex?e_o&amp;space;%5Csim&amp;space;C_o%5E%7BX(F)%7D" alt="" /></a>
<p>Furthermore, the exponent <i>X</i> (which in Kleiber&#8217;s law is reckoned to be between <i>0.66</i> and <i>0.75</i> for animals and <i>1 </i>for plants), will itself be a function of the fidelity of the simulation, hence <i>X(F), </i>where <i>F</i> is a measure of fidelity.</p>
<p>By using the number of synapses as a proxy for complexity and making some guesses about the values of <i>X</i> and <i>F</i> we could probably estimate the energy cost of simulating all humans on the planet (much harder would be estimating the energy cost of simulating every living thing on the planet). It would be a <i>very</i> big number indeed, but that&#8217;s not really the point I&#8217;m making here.</p>
<p>The fundamental issue is this: <i>if</i> my conjecture that to simulate complex system <i><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;">x</span></i> requires more energy than the real <i><span style="font-family: Times, Times New Roman, serif;">x</span></i> consumes is correct, then to simulate the base level universe would require more energy than that universe contains &#8211; which is clearly impossible. Thus we &#8211; even in principle &#8211; could not simulate the whole of our own observable universe to a level of fidelity sufficient for our conscious experience. And, for the same reason, neither could our super advanced descendants create a simulation of a duplicate ancestor universe for us to (virtually) live in. Hence, we are not living in such a simulation.</p>
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		<title>SpaceX nails landing on drone ship</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After several unsuccessful attempts, SpaceX finally made a perfect touchdown with its Falcon 9 rocket on the drone ship, aptly named: &#8216;Of Course I Still Love You.&#8217;  A historic moment with the help of a drone ship. The two-stage Falcon 9 rocket blasted off at 4:43 p.m. EDT (2043 GMT) on 8 April from Florida&#8217;s Cape Canaveral Air Force [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_61390" style="width: 910px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-61390" class="size-full wp-image-61390" src="http://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/rocket-spacex-nasa-space.jpg" alt="SpaceX Falcon 9 | CRS-8 Dragon landed on the drone barge. Source: SpaceX/flickr" width="900" height="600" srcset="https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/rocket-spacex-nasa-space.jpg 900w, https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/rocket-spacex-nasa-space-425x283.jpg 425w, https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/rocket-spacex-nasa-space-450x300.jpg 450w" sizes="(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px" /><p id="caption-attachment-61390" class="wp-caption-text">SpaceX Falcon 9 landed on the drone ship. Source: SpaceX/flickr</p></div>
<p>After several unsuccessful attempts, SpaceX finally made a perfect touchdown with its Falcon 9 rocket on the drone ship, aptly named: &#8216;<em>Of Course I Still Love You.&#8217;  </em>A historic moment with the help of a drone ship.</p>
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<p>The two-stage Falcon 9 rocket blasted off at 4:43 p.m. EDT (2043 GMT) on 8 April from Florida&#8217;s Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. SpaceX streamed live video of the historic rocket landing during the launch, a feat that capped a smooth cargo launch for NASA:</p>
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<p>After separating from Dragon a few minutes after liftoff, the Falcon 9&#8217;s first stage performed several flyback engine burns, then eventually lowered itself vertically onto a SpaceX drone ship that was stationed off the Florida coast. Having reusable rockets is a big component of SpaceX&#8217;s plan to drive down the cost of space flights. That includes reducing the payload of re-fuelling.</p>
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<p dir="ltr" lang="en">The 1st stage of the Falcon 9 just landed on our Of Course I Still Love You droneship. Dragon in good orbit <a href="https://t.co/SYyUCDZE3k" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">pic.twitter.com/SYyUCDZE3k</a></p>
<p>— SpaceX (@SpaceX) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/718542763545899008" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">April 8, 2016</a></p></blockquote>
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<h2>Why land on a floating drone ship?</h2>
<p>The drone ships are capable of maneuvering autonomously, using GPS information for precision positioning, but they can also be remotely controlled by an accompanying support ship with a crew of technicians standing by. The reason for moving the landing site from land to the ocean is because of fuel. Having different rockets and payloads will require different amounts of fuel. For a ground landing, the rocket needs extra fuel to slow its arc, completely flip around, and then retread its horizontal and vertical distance to land safely. But with an ocean landing the drone can place itself down range, in the ideal place to catch the rocket booster on a more natural path when it comes down, decreasing how much fuel it needs to maneuver for a safe landing.</p>
<p>SpaceX President Gwynne Shotwell said a launch with a previously used first stage could be <a href="http://spacenews.com/spacex-says-reusable-stage-could-cut-prices-by-30-plans-first-falcon-heavy-in-november/" target="_blank" data-wpel-link="external" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">priced 30 percent less than the current Falcon 9 rockets.</a></p>
<div id="attachment_61401" style="width: 910px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-61401" class="size-full wp-image-61401" src="http://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/drone-ship-spacex.jpg" alt="The “Of Course I Still Love You,” which received the first successful Falcon 9 landing April 8th, 2016. Photo: SpaceX" width="900" height="506" srcset="https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/drone-ship-spacex.jpg 900w, https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/drone-ship-spacex-425x239.jpg 425w, https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/drone-ship-spacex-500x281.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px" /><p id="caption-attachment-61401" class="wp-caption-text">The “Of Course I Still Love You,” which received the first successful Falcon 9 landing April 8th, 2016. Photo: SpaceX</p></div>
<p>But it&#8217;s not without difficulties. During the post-launch press conference SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk commented: “It’s quite a tiny target. It’s like trying to land on a postage stamp there,” Musk said. “It’s like a carrier landing versus a land landing.” </p>
<p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNygOavo2mY</p>
<p>However SpaceX proved, if nothing else, that it can be done:</p>
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Onboard view of landing in high winds <a href="https://t.co/FedRzjYYyQ" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">pic.twitter.com/FedRzjYYyQ</a> — SpaceX (@SpaceX) <a href="https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/718605741288894464" data-wpel-link="external" target="_blank" rel="follow external noopener noreferrer">April 9, 2016</a>
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<p>Here are a few more images from the historic landing. </p>
<div id="attachment_61396" style="width: 910px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-61396" class="size-full wp-image-61396" src="http://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/spacex-falcon-elon-dragon-space.jpg" alt="Falcon 9 positioning itself over drone ship. Source: Spacex/Flickr" width="900" height="600" srcset="https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/spacex-falcon-elon-dragon-space.jpg 900w, https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/spacex-falcon-elon-dragon-space-425x283.jpg 425w, https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/spacex-falcon-elon-dragon-space-450x300.jpg 450w" sizes="(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px" /><p id="caption-attachment-61396" class="wp-caption-text">Falcon 9 positioning itself over drone ship. Source: SpaceX/Flickr</p></div>
<div id="attachment_61397" style="width: 910px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img decoding="async" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-61397" class="size-full wp-image-61397" src="http://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/spacex-falcon-elon-dragon-space2.jpg" alt="Falcon 9 landing on drone ship. Source: Spacex/Flickr" width="900" height="600" srcset="https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/spacex-falcon-elon-dragon-space2.jpg 900w, https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/spacex-falcon-elon-dragon-space2-425x283.jpg 425w, https://robohub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/spacex-falcon-elon-dragon-space2-450x300.jpg 450w" sizes="(max-width: 900px) 100vw, 900px" /><p id="caption-attachment-61397" class="wp-caption-text">Falcon 9 landing on drone ship. Source: SpaceX/Flickr</p></div>
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